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To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

All Legislation Legislates Morality

One often hears people say, 'You can't legislate morality!' People who say this are often people who confuse the genus morality with the species sexual morality. But even upon acquiescence in this genus-species confusion, it is obvious that we can, do, and ought to legislate morality. After all, we have laws against rape, and we ought to have them. Rape is both immoral and illegal, and it is right that it be illegal. The fundamental problem, however, is the confusion of morality with sexual morality. That the two are distinct should be self-evident, hence I won’t spare the reader the pleasure of providing his own examples. But perhaps I should give one example to prime the pump of the reader's thinking. Suppose a woman poisons her husband in order to collect on a life insurance policy. The act is immoral but has nothing to do with sex in the way that committing adultery has something to do with sex.

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Tuesday October 30, 2007 at 1:24pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
Bill - I agree with you, to a point. But sometimes when people say "You can't legislate morality," they mean that legislation can't make people behave morally; even if there is a happy coincidence between law and morality. Legislation, with its attendant threats, can, however, make people law-abiding. Law depends on coercion to "make its point" -- morality depends on reasoned persuasion.
10.30.2007 4:35pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Good point, Bob. People could mean that by the phrase. It is certainly true that the enacting and enforcing of laws does not cause people to behave morally even in the case of the happy coincidence you mention. But it doesn't make them law-abiding either. Free will is the spanner in the works.

In my experience, however, what people mean by 'You can't legislate morality' is that one ought not make laws regarding sexual behavior.
10.30.2007 6:01pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Tom Coleman e-mails:

Remarkable! Just this morning while showering I was thinking about the same question and giving the same answer. I was specifically recalling a discussion long ago with a liberal fellow noncom (rara avis, that!) who denounced pro-lifers for imposing their morality on others. I assured him that he did the very same thing by supporting government programs that help the poor. I said that I agreed that the state has an obligation to help some, and then added that all of us who so agree are forcing others to pay for altruistic policies that might conflict with their notions of morality, i.e. disciples of Ayn Rand. And I made the same statement--that all legislation is moral legislation.

So it is arguable that Barry Goldwater, the man many think of as a great conservative, was nothing of the kind, but a libertarian whose ideas, like those of Ayn Rand, sometimes coincided with conservative ideas. Liberals love to point out that Old Barry supported legalized abortion, but Goldwater supported abortion for the same reason that he opposed civil rights legislation; the same ultimately indefensable notion that you cannot legislate morality. You rightly point out that valuing liberty is of the very nature of conservatism. I would add, though (as you probably do, too) that liberty is a value because it enables people to do good. I think that the idea that liberty is a good thing just becuase it is liberty is a romantic concept the acceptance of which is dangerous.

When liberals ask why conservative Christians seem to care only about sexual morality and not about racism and war and low wages and the environment, etc. I point out that very few people are seriouly tempted to build factories that pollute the ervironment, underpay the wokers therein, and ensure that said workforce is of one skin color, but most people ARE tempted to make objects of others and wreck souls and families. This arguement, alas, is only effective when dealing with CHRISTIAN liberals!
10.30.2007 6:09pm
Dave Gudeman (www):
Bill, I'm not that familiar with legal and moral philosophy, but aren't there schools of pragmatic legal philosophy claiming that laws should be designed to meet certain objective criteria that are not based on morality? For example, some libertarians say that laws should do nothing but prevent violence and enforce contracts and these not because violence or violating contracts is immoral but because that is a minimal requirement of civil society.
10.30.2007 11:08pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Hi Dave,

You are raising an important question, but one that is tangential to what I am arguing. I am making the very simple point that all enacting and enforcing of laws is the issuing of prescribings and proscriptions that regulate human behavior, human mores, and that therefore all legislation is the legislation of morality.

It doesn't matter how you analyze 'X is morally permissible' and 'X is morally obligatory.' Perhaps there is a viable pragmatic analysis, perhaps not. Either way, my point holds.

I am simply rejecting the view of those who say that one cannot legislate morality. One does, hence one can. Further, one ought to, hence it is permissible.
10.31.2007 1:55pm