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Are Miracles Logically Possible?

John Earman, Hume's Abject Failure: The Argument Against Miracles (Oxford 2000), p. 8:

. . . if a miracle is a violation of a law of nature, then whether or not the violation is due to the intervention of the Deity, a miracle is logically impossible since, whatever else a law of nature is, it is an exceptionless regularity.

According to a standard way of thinking, miracles are violations of laws of nature. This approach has an impressive pedigree. Thus Thomas Aquinas writes, in the Summa Theologica (Q. 110, art. 4, respondeo), "A miracle properly so called takes place when something is done outside the order of nature." Thomas makes it clear that by 'nature' he means the whole of created nature, and not just physical nature. He concludes that God alone can work miracles.

Thomas also alludes (in Reply Obj. 2) to a distinction between miracles ontically and epistemically construed. This is not his terminology. He speaks of miracles "absolutely" considered and miracles "in reference to ourselves." Something that occurs by a power unknown to us may appear miraculous to us and yet not be miraculous absolutely. Now consider:

1. A miracle is an exception to a law of nature.
2. Every law of nature is an exceptionless regularity (though not conversely).
Therefore
3. A miracle is an exception to an exceptionless regularity.
Therefore
4. Miracles are logically impossible.

This argument seems to show that if miracles are to be possible they cannot be understood as violations of laws of nature. How then are they to be understood?

Posted by William F. Vallicella on Sunday May 27, 2007 at 5:15pm
TomG (mail) (www):
Regularities of nature need not be exceptionless laws, if there is a person behind them. A person might have a habit of taking a walk before breakfast every day, but can make exceptions. God can cause nature to work in regular patterns, without restricting himself from making exceptions to the pattern from time to time.
5.27.2007 7:30pm
Sam Graf:
For the argument to hold, I think we would need to amend as follows: “Every law of nature is an exceptionless regularity within an isolated system.” But then I think we would beg the question.
5.27.2007 7:43pm
Paul (mail):
I don't assume them to be violations of laws of nature but, rather, extraordinary, rather than ordinary, providence. That is, God goes outside of his normal governing of every detail of creation, and brings about a "wonder" to attest to his word, or prophet. Miracles always have a revelatory function. It need not even be directly caused by God. God used a "strong east wind" to part the red sea. The 'miraculous' character was the revelatory function this act played in the history of redemption.
5.27.2007 7:52pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Tom,

I don't understand you. A law of nature cannot admit of exceptions, otherwise it would not be a law. An exceptionless regularity needn't be a law, but a law must be an exceptionless regularity.


Sam,

Why beg the question?

Paul,

How could a a parting of the Red Sea not involve a violation of natural laws? Or a raising of a man from the dead?
5.27.2007 8:11pm
Sam Graf:
An isolated system has “sealed boundaries”; no exchange of matter or energy is possible with anything outside the system. So to declare the system isolated in this case seems to me to beg the question.
5.27.2007 8:19pm
Paul (mail):
Bill,

i) This is God's world, it's no 'violation' for him to do has he pleases.

ii) What is a "law of nature?"

a) The ultimate principle that governs the world? That's the decrees of God. In this sense natural laws are never broken.

b) The regular processes by which God usually governs creation? These are those regularities in the natural world we see. God's normal SOP. In this sense, natural laws would be, in some cases, made exception to. but not always since God dried up the sea by a "strong east wind." That's a "natural" event. And, 'usual' is a matter of degree.

c) Human expectations concerning the workings of nature? Well, on this sense since one's "expectations" is somewhat subjective, an exception to natural law is something essentially subjective. And, I think Hume (and those like him) are trying to make a metaphysical point.

d) The basic created structure of the universe? This is probably closest to Hume's. It's not the first, and the second and third can be too subjective. This seems to assume that 'natural law' is some kind of mechanism, and God suspends this mechanism. I reject this view for a few reasons:

1) Scripture doesn't define miracle this way.

2) I don't know if there are any natural laws in this sense. It's more deistic. On my view, God governs all events, even the number of hairs on our head. God brings the wind, rain, snow, and the fog, says Scripture.

3) Even if there are these laws, no one knows for sure what they are. How would the Biblical writers, less knowledgeable than people of today, known when to call something a miracle? And, since we don't know enough, they might be 'violations' of natural law in the same sense that an airplane 'violates' the law of gravity. I don't take this view, but I'm just saying that a lot would have to be known to even claim a 'violation' has occurred.

4) Scripture even says that "natural phenomena" are used to bring about miracles. The parting of the red sea was by a "strong east wind." Surely a very strong wind could do things like this.

iii) So, I call a miracle an event caused by God's power for the purpose of attesting his word of prophets, or making his name known, so extraordinary that we would usually consider them impossible, or extremely unlikely.
5.27.2007 8:32pm
Paul (mail):
In support of Tom:

Even atheist philosopher Michael Martin doesn't think the 'laws' are 'absolute.' Says Martin,

"Frame has argued correctly that science does not presuppose the absolute uniformity of nature, but I do not suppose that it does." SOURCE
5.27.2007 8:37pm
Paul (mail):
And, since my view isn't logically impossible, miracles aren't "logically" impossible!
5.27.2007 8:39pm
Franklin C Mason (mail) (www):
From the Stanford Encylopedia of Philosophy article on laws of nature:

In the late 1970s, there emerged competition for the systems approach and all other Humean attempts to say what it is to be a law. Led by Armstrong (1978, 1983, 1991, 1993), Fred Dretske (1977), and Michael Tooley (1977, 1987), the rival approach appeals to universals to distinguish laws from nonlaws.
Focusing on Armstrong's development of the view, here is one of his concise statements of the framework characteristic of the universals approach:
Suppose it to be a law that Fs are Gs. F-ness and G-ness are taken to be universals. A certain relation, a relation of non-logical or contingent necessitation, holds between F-ness and G-ness. This state of affairs may be symbolized as ‘N(F,G)’

That such a relation of nomic necessitation holds between a pair of universals F and G does not entail that every F is a G, for nomic necessity is weaker than absolute, or metaphysical necessity.

When I used to worry about such things, I was partial to this sort of view. The Humean regularity view seemed to be beset by severe difficulties. For instance, it was not at all clear that it could distinguish between regularities that are genuine laws of nature from those that are not.
5.28.2007 4:11am
w_ockham (mail) (www):
I very much like the idea of miracles secundum quid (things that seem miraculous because we do not understand the power that creates them – as with stone age people thinking sailing ships or steam engines were magical or miraculous). There is a whole family of arguments that defend miraculous accounts in the scriptures as being of this sort. But Aquinas says they are not miracles of this sort (and rightly, I think). God is not be confused with some superior but merely physical intelligence of some kind.

Now as to your argument. You start of with the expression 'law of nature'. Note that Aquinas does not speak of laws, but of the 'order of created nature' [ordo naturae creatae]. If you really believe in 'laws' of nature, you don't believe in a God who can intervene in nature by breaking those laws. As you rightly reply to one of the objections, a scientific law that can be broken is not a law at all.

But the idea of an 'order' of created things is different. These are things created by God, all of them. They appear to work in a certain regular way because God has ordained it so. Bodies fall with a regular acceleration because all the time God is keeping it that way. There is nothing to stop him, from time to time, intervening in a way that violates the natural order of things.

In summary, your argument is valid. But is it sound: it may be asked whether there are such things as laws of nature in the sense required? Is there rather an 'order of nature' in which things are maintained by God in a certain way that appear to admit no exceptions?
5.28.2007 4:14am
Tim:
In his book Water Into Wine?, Robert Larmer argues that the concept of a miracle should not be restricted to the notion of violation of a natural law. There is an excellent historical discussion of changes in the concept of a miracle in Joseph Houston's book Reported Miracles: A Critique of Hume.

In chapter 17 of The Logic of Chance, John Venn gets himself into a bit of a muddle on this very issue. I can write more about this if anyone is interested; I've written up notes for a paper on the subject, if ever I have time to write it.
5.28.2007 9:05am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Franklin,

Nowhere in the post did I advocate a regularity theory of laws. Please read premise (2) again.

I am well aware of the Armstrong-Dretske-Tooley theory of laws. But how does that solve the problem? Suppose laws are relations between universals. Now consider a law L of the form N(F, G) that holds in some but not all metaphysically possible worlds. In every such world, there is no F that is not a G. Thus in every such world the F-G regularity is exceptionless. So what are you saying?

Of course, if the laws of nature are metaphysically contingent, then there might have been a different set of laws. A miracle, however, is not a replacing of an actual law with a merely possible one; it is the violation of an actual law.

I presented an argument. To refute the argument you must either show that the reasoning is incorrect, or reject one of the premises. Which will it be?
5.28.2007 9:21am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Ockham,

It is hard to understand what an order of created nature would be if it could be upset by divine interventions. It is one thing to say that there are different possible orders of created nature. I see no problem with that idea. But once an order is actual, it implies exceptionless regularity.

So my question to you is: how could there be an order of nature that is not 1-1 with a set of laws of nature?
5.28.2007 9:51am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Tim,

Thankks for the references. Larmer, I take it, appreciates the forece of the argument given above. But then what is a miracle if it is not a violation of a law of nature?
5.28.2007 9:55am
Steve_Feds (mail):
Bill,

I've been digging through Moreland and Craig's Philosophical Foundations for a Christian Worldview (Intervarsity, 2004). In particular, their chapter on Miracles. Here's an interesting portion,


If God brings about some event that a law of nature fails to predict or describe, such an event cannot be characterized as a violation of a law of nature, since the law is valid only on the assumption that no supernatural factors in addition to the natural factors come into play....then, miracles ought to be defined as naturally impossible events, that is to say, events that cannot be produced by the natural causes operative at a certain time and place(567).



What do you make of this defintion of 'miracle'?
5.28.2007 10:14am
Sam Graf:
Bill, in light of the current discussion, I'd like to take one more stab at clarifying my first comment, if I may.

If we affirm contingent actions, we seem necessarily to affirm that our universe is an open system. Science assumes the universe to be a closed system, but that appears to preclude contingent actions. Laws of nature that are exceptionless regularities seem to me to be possible only in a closed or isolated system.

If we affirm an open system, from the point of view of an observer within that system, we have the logical possibility of contingent actions that are constrained by the resources available within that system and of contingent actions that are not constrained by the resources available within that system. If I am capable of contingent action, I appear nevertheless to be constrained by the resources available within the system I (currently) inhabit. However, I can conceive of contingent actions not so constrained.

If miracles are are real, it's unclear to me why they can't be understood as contingent actions not constrained by the resources available within our open system. They do in fact violate laws of nature, but these laws aren't exceptionless in the presence of contingent actions, and indeed it seems that they cannot be.

Miraculous events such as the appearance of angelic beings or the occurrence of resurrections or the parting of a sea or a river seem to be the result of personal (rather than impersonal), contingent action. None of these events appear to be the necessary result of the interactions of two dissimilar but open systems. Rather, they appear to be contingent actions not constrained by the resources of the system in which they occur.

So to make the argument you presented stand, I think we have to talk of exceptionless laws as existing only in isolated systems.
5.28.2007 11:43am
Franklin C Mason (mail) (www):
Lordy lordy, I just lost a long reply.

In sum, it was this: to say, as you do, that a law of nature is a regularity is in fact to endorse the regularity view. Armstrong, for instance, rejects this. He holds instead that, in some way, laws of nature manifest themselves or issue in regularities. Indeed I thought that a regularity view of laws of nature consisted in precisely this: laws are nothing over and above regularities, and when you said in 2 "Every law of nature is an exceptionless regularity" I took you to endorse the regularity view.
5.28.2007 12:04pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Franklin,

I feel your pain, if you will permit me a Clintonian solecism.

You are not reading me or Earman carefully. I wrote:

2. Every law of nature is an exceptionless regularity (though not conversely).

The phrase in parentheses makes it clear that I am not identifying laws with exceptionless regularities. I am merely stating in other words what Earman said: "whatever else a law of nature is, it is an exceptionless regularity." Do you disagree with that?

Surely you understand that 'is' does not always have the sense of identity. I have studied Armstrong's What is a Law of Nature? and I accept his critique of Humean theories of laws. The point is that, if a law is a relation between universals, then a law statement is a statement of an exceptionless regularity whatever else it may express.
5.28.2007 12:54pm
Franklin C Mason (mail) (www):
My point is this. Regularities are propositions of the form:

(x)(Fx > Gx).

To say that laws are regularities is to say that they are propositions of this sort.

I take it that Armstrong denies this. He holds (I seem to recall) that laws entail propositions of this sort. But they are not propositions of this sort. Rather they are a certain sort of contingent state of affair "out there" in the world.

I did not take you to claim that the class of laws and the class of regularities are one and the same class. But I did take you to mean that the former is identical to a subset of the latter, and this is highly contentious (unless I'm deeply confused about something - always a possibility).

There is a point to all this. If one distinguishes regularities from laws (as I think Armstrong does), there might be reason to deny that, in all cases, laws entail exceptionaless regularities; and if they do not, laws and the breaking of laws can xo-exist at a world.
5.28.2007 1:38pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Steve,

Thanks for the helpful comment. Now we have two definitions of 'miracle' on the table:

X is a miracle =df X is a violation of a law of nature.

X is a miracle =df X is a naturally impossible event.

But a naturally impossible event would seem to be nothing other than a nomologically impossible event, in which case the 2nd defn would return us to the first. What exactly do Moreland and Craig understand by a law? The quotation suggests a conflation of laws and law statements. If a law of nature is a relation between universals, then it cannot be said to describe anything.
5.28.2007 1:53pm
R. L. Lovvorn:
While I remain a novice in the debate over the possibility of miracles, I do think that Thomas Aquinas may have the answer if one understands what he means by a "law of nature." For Thomas, there are two ways that this can be taken: that of Platonism or that of the Aristotelians. As you well know, Thomas will side with Aristotle. The Aristotelean-Thomist sees a "law of nature" to be a universal statement that summarizes particular events. These universals will always have statistical deviation from their realization because they are not concerned with particular essences (e.g., the law of gravity is only absolute in a vacuum). One must remember that for Aristotle and Thomas there are only particular essences. If science was concerned directly with particular essences, there would be as many sciences as there are essences. I say that it is not "directly" concerned with particular essences because obviously science is concerned with particular events insofar as these serve as the empirical testing ground of the universal statements; albeit, these particular events, themselves, are only returned to after the universal law has been hypothesized. The "laws of nature," therefore, are not Platonic forms that truly exist but are universals in the mind of the human subject.

Over against this, Thomas also believes that there is "Eternal Law." The Eternal Law is God, himself, as the regulating principle of all creation. This Law is unable to be penetrated by our intellects because it exists as the divine simplicity that is God's essence.

In short, Thomas would reject premise 1 of the abovementioned argument. That a law of nature is an exceptionless regularity would be seen to border on Platonism. It remains possible for there to be miracles because God is the Eternal Law of the universe and, because of his Providence, he is able to intervene when he sees fit. This will obviously conflict with the "natural law," but Thomas' distinction has already shown why this matters little. One must keep in mind, however, that though miracles are not the object of science and (Thomas believes) philosophy can show them to be a possibility, they are ultimately answerable to the divine science rather than the human.

I know this was short, but I hope it opens up an avenue of exploration.
5.28.2007 3:59pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Franklin,

I have no beef with your understanding of Armstrong, which seems accurate. And I myself am inclined to accept a theory of laws like Armstrong's and for the reasons he gives. Then you write:

I did not take you to claim that the class of laws and the class of regularities are one and the same class. But I did take you to mean that the former is identical to a subset of the latter, and this is highly contentious

No. Consider a possible world W that has four individuals a, b, c, d and two universals F, G and the following facts: Fa, Gb, Fc, Gd. In W the Armstrong law N(F, G) holds. The regularity in W consists in the circumstance that F-instantiations are followed by G-instantiations. But the law is not identical to this regularity (or pattern of instantiations) because a law is a relation of universals and F and G can exist without being instantiated by a and c, b and d, respectively, even though they must, as Armstrongian immanent universals, be instantiated by some individuals or other.

But although a law is not indentical to a regularity, a law induces or entails a regularity. You can't have a law without a regularity, though you can have a regularity without a law. Now a regularity that is not exceptionless is no regularity at all.

So a violation of a law is a violation of an exceptionless regularity: it it an exception to an exceptionless regularity and is for that very reason logically impossible. You write:

There is a point to all this. If one distinguishes regularities from laws (as I think Armstrong does), there might be reason to deny that, in all cases, laws entail exceptionaless regularities; and if they do not, laws and the breaking of laws can xo-exist at a world.

Of course there is a difference between a law and its corresponding regularity. But there is NO reason to deny that laws entail exceptionless regularities. If it is indeed a law that F = ma (Newton's 2nd law)then this holds across the board, without exception. Otherwise it is not a law.

So far, no one in this thread has given a good reason not to accept Earman's argument, of which my (1)-(4) argument is simply a perspicuous reconstruction, the upshot of which is that a miracle cannot be sensibly defined as a violation of a natural law.

And note that the point stands whether or not we bring God into the picture. A miracle understood as a violation of a law of nature is log. impossible whether the miracle is caused by God, the devil, or by nothing at all.
5.28.2007 7:49pm
Dave Gudeman (www):
Bill, I can't think of any laws of nature that are exceptionless regularities. Every scientific law that I can think of is either a stipulation (like F=ma) or comes with innumerable exceptions such that the practitioner must understandd that the laws are only true if the exceptions do not arise. When exceptions do arise, you try to come up with a broader statement of the law that includes the exception, but you can't ever come up with an exceptionless law without turning it into a stipulation.

Furthermore, although I'm certainly no expert on Thomas Aquinas, it's hard to believe that he or anyone else before Newton had this idea of natural laws as exceptionless regularities. Wasn't it Netwon's theory of gravitation that inspired the mechanistic view of the universe that this proposition is based on?
5.28.2007 9:19pm
Spur:
I'd like to take a stab at defending the key premise of Earman's argument:

2. Every law of nature is an exceptionless regularity (though not conversely).

Suppose laws of nature take the form (x)(Fx --> Gx). In that case, a miracle, if defined as an exception to a law of nature, would involve something being F without being G. Now let there be a law (or law-statement) L1 that correctly describes the occurence of all but one of the events that make up the history of the world. This event, a miraculous occurence that violates L1, we call En. The question to ask here is this: What makes L1 a law of nature, i.e. a law that truly governs this world, as opposed to some other law L2 which covers not only the events covered by L1 but also En? If there is such an L2, then clearly it, rather than L1, is a law of nature, in which case En isn't really a violation of a law of nature. But even if there isn't such an L2, we still ought to say that L1 isn't a law of nature, because what it says ((x)(Fx --> Gx)) is false, given that some thing is F but not G. We could get around this by restricting L1 to just those cases in which it holds good, but then since En isn't one of those cases, we couldn't say that it's a violation of L1. So if we restrict L1, then En isn't an exception to it. But if we don't restrict L1, then it isn't a true law of nature and so En isn't an exception to a (true) law of nature. In any case, it makes no sense to think of En as a violation of a law of nature.
5.29.2007 12:58am
Spur:
Dave,

Why would you say that F=ma is a stipulation? I would say that if F=ma is in fact a law, then it was discovered rather than stipulated. The same thing would be true with E=mc^2. Einstein didn't just stipulate this to be the case; he discovered it.
5.29.2007 1:20am
Vlastimil Vohánka (mail):
What about this broad definition of miracles by John Depoe (ch. I)?


Much ink has been spilt in the attempt to define a “miracle.” ... For my purposes, a miraculous event must necessarily be
(i) performed by a god, (ii) a violation, suspension, breaking, or intervention of some law of
nature, and (iii) performed for some divine purpose. I shall briefly elaborate on what I mean by
these necessary conditions for an event to qualify as a miracle.
My first condition for some event to count as a miracle is that a god must bring about the
event. Consequently, extraordinary and improbable events that are not brought about by a
personal, supernatural agent fall short of my definition of a miracle. If a god exists, presumably
he could perform many actions, and it would not be the case that all of the god’s actions would
count as miraculous. For example, in the Christian tradition, a distinction is made between
divine acts of providence and miracles. Miracles are conceptually distinguishable from acts of
divine providence insofar as events classified as “divine providence” involve no divine action
that violates, suspends, breaks, or intervenes on a law of nature. Thus, my second condition
makes a distinction between all divine actions and a narrower class of divine actions that could
qualify as miraculous.
Finally, miraculous events are performed for a divine purpose. A miracle, as I use the
term, includes only events that a god performs for some significant reason. One plausible
suggestion, offered by Richard Purtill, is that a miraculous event intends “to show that God is
acting.” The important aspect of this final qualification is that purposeless divine actions that
violate, suspend, break, or intervene in the laws of nature do not fall under the class of
miraculous events. In other words, a capricious divine act (if such a concept is coherent) would
not count as a miracle on my view. The concept of miraculous events includes that there is a
purpose in the god’s action.



Does it help?
5.29.2007 5:44am
Bill Tingley (mail) (www):
Hi, Bill.

I think Ockham got it right when he pointed out:

You start of with the expression 'law of nature'. Note that Aquinas does not speak of laws, but of the 'order of created nature' [ordo naturae creatae]. If you really believe in 'laws' of nature, you don't believe in a God who can intervene in nature by breaking those laws. As you rightly reply to one of the objections, a scientific law that can be broken is not a law at all.

Aquinas's "order of created nature" is a metaphysical statement that God's creation possesses order whereas the laws of nature are epistemological constructs derived from our scientific observations of that order. In other words, the laws of nature are the means by which we mathematically describe the observable order of nature. Therefore, it is order that determines those laws and it is God who determines that order.

With this in mind, we have room for the two types of miracles that Aquinas identifies. Because the laws of nature are derivative of the created order of nature, we have no reason to believe that those laws are exhaustive in their description of that order. Nor, on that account, do we have reason to believe that order is entirely reducible to the regularity that can be captured in a mathematical description as in a law of nature. Thus, what may be perceived as a miracle because we cannot account for it by any known law of nature could be an effect of the created order of nature which we do not yet understand -- i.e., Aquinas's epistemological miracle.

As to Aquinas's ontological miracles, He who created and ordered nature can supplement His act of creation with other acts that affect that creation. These supernatural acts, miracles, therefore lie outside the scope of what the laws of nature can describe because they lie outside the scope of nature's order. On this view an absolute miracle is not a violation of a law of nature but instead an event caused by an agent superior to nature, God.

Therefore, Bill, I disagree with your first and third premises because an absolute miracle has no cause within nature and so cannot be an exception to laws that by definition only apply to that which is natural.

Regards, Bill T
5.29.2007 10:17am
Spur:
Vlastimil,

I don't see how the Depoe helps. He doesn't seem to say anything that addresses Earman's argument.

Bill T.,

So you agree with Bill, then, that "if miracles are to be possible they cannot be understood as violations of laws of nature"?
5.29.2007 2:07pm
Dave Gudeman (www):
Spur, I said that F=ma is a stipulation because it essentially acts as a definition of force. F=ma stipulates that the net force acting on an object is equal to mass times acceleration. If you can't account for the behavior of the mass under known forces, then you posit the existence of one or more unknown forces to account for the behavior.
5.29.2007 2:15pm
Bill Tingley (mail) (www):
Hi, Spur.

I agree with that.

Regards, Bill T
5.29.2007 3:17pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Spur,

Let me see if I can put your argument is a simpler way. Suppose the following is a deterministic law of nature: If a sample of pure water at sea-level on earth is heated to 212 deg F, then it boils. We should think of this conditional as prefixed with a nomic necessity operator and a universal quantifier: it is nomically necessary that, for any x, if x is a sample of pure water at earth's sea-level heated to 212 deg F, then x boils.

Now isn't it obvious without any further ado that this law, if indeed a law, holds without exception? For if there were even one exception (a sample of pure water heated to 212 that does not boil), then the law would not be a law.

To say that a law can admit of an exception seems to make as little sense as to say that a universal generalization can be both true and have a counterexample, that a proposition of the the form All Fs are Gs can be true even though there is an F that is not a G.
5.29.2007 4:07pm
Dave Gudeman (www):
Bill, your example of a law is actually a good example of a law that admits of exceptions. This sample of pure water will not boil at 212 deg. if you artificially pressurize it. But OK, change your statement to say that it is only true if the sample is open to the atmosphere. Then it still won't work if meteorlogical conditions are such that the pressure is unusually high that day. But OK, change your statement to say that air pressure has to be average for that altitude. Then it still won't happen if you heat the water under proper conditions to make it super-heated. So OK, add the stipulation that the water is stirred continuously so that it won't superheat. Then how do you know that there aren't other factors that might intervene?

Considerations like this lead me to suggest that the whole idea of a natural laws is a polite fiction. But even if you are going to try to save the concept of natural laws, I don't think that you can do so in any way that makes them exceptionless. So-called natural laws are no more than observed patterns in nature. We have no justification for assuming that any law we know of is perfect, or even that any perfect laws exist.

I know that this is a bit off-topic, but your whole argument relies on a premise that makes some drastic assumptions about nature.

(But even if your view of science were correct, your argument still would not go through because your first premise begs the question.)
5.29.2007 4:52pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
I think that Earman's argument is sound, and that laws of nature, if there are any, must be exceptionless.

I think Bill V is correct, too, to generalize the claim to the order of/in nature.

I think I need to re-read Peirce's discussions of order and randomness.
5.29.2007 6:15pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Dave,

Your last comment definitely adds something worthwhile to the discussion.

You want to defend the possibility of miracles such as God's creating Eve from a rib of Adam. Now if laws are "polite fictions," then you can't say that a miracle is a violation of a law of nature. If there are no laws of nature, then a miracle cannot consist in the violation of one. So how would you define 'miracle'?

As for the boiling water example, what is to stop me from adding all the negative qualifications (the water is not pressurized, etc) to the law statement? You will respond that I can't be sure if I have specified them all. But note that there is a difference between a law statement and a law. Even if I can't state the law so that it obviously entails an exceptionless regularity, the law itself could exist and entail an exceptionless regularity. And what could warrant you in your belief that every law admit of exceptions? How could you know that?

"So-called natural laws are no more than observed patterns in nature." This sounds like the Humean regularity theory of laws against which many objections can be brought. But even if a law just were an observed pattern, if you found a break in the pattern, an exception to it, would you still call it a law? If you admit laws at all, how can you object to Earman's claim, "whatever else a law of nature is, it is an exceptionless regularity."

Try this example: If x has weight, then x has mass. Can you think of an exception?

My first premise was: 1. A miracle is an exception to a law of nature. You say this begs the question. You are missing the point entirely, you and some other people in this thread. The question I posed above is not whether there are miracles, the question is the logically prior question concerning the correct definition of 'miracle.' Until we know what a miracle is, we won't be able to determine whether there are any.

Earman's argument is a reductio ad absurdum of (1). The argument shows that the defn of a miracle as a violation of a law of nature leads to a contradiction. So far, no one has refuted Earman's argument.

Of course, you are free to propose an alternative definition of 'miracle.'
5.29.2007 7:27pm
Henry Verheggen:
I vote to reject premise 1, since it is not something we can know to be true. We cannot know that there is such a thing as a law of nature, since we cannot make universal empirical generalizations. Logically (although not pragmatically) we can never be sure that some exception to a proposed universal generalization might not occur in future or exist beyond our range of perception.

I think there should also be an information theory problem with the notion of a universe of exceptionless regularity. There is randomness in the universe, but randomness can have no theory that has less information content than the randomness itself, in which case its description can't really be called a theory or law. I would have to think about this latter suggestion some more though.
5.29.2007 7:28pm
Don Blow, Jr.:
Bill,

Sorry to "butt-in" so late. I agree that the argument you present in your original post is sound. Miracles, then, it seems, should be understood as something other than violations of laws of nature. I do think, though, that the Craig-Moreland quote provided by Steve is headed in what I view as the right direction. As you note to Dave (and as Dave himself suggests), if a certain law—or rather, law statement—appears not to be exceptionless, then one simply needs to add all the necessary qualifications. Pure water doesn't always boil at 212 degrees? Okay it does given a, b, c, etc. Couldn't the same thing be said about miracles? We, for instance, do not say that any "law of nature" has been violated when someone stops a falling object from falling; it's just that the law statement "What goes up must come down" needs to be qualified. (Yes, I'm aware that "What goes up must come down" is not an actual law statement; simply replace it with a more technical equivalent.)

For example, the law (or law statement) "No man can rise from the dead" is in need of qualification—"No man can rise from the dead unless . . .," where what follows the "unless" is only possible given divine interaction. Thus a miracle is not a breach of any law. Rather, it suggests a qualification of commonly held law statements.
5.29.2007 9:11pm
Spur:

Spur, I said that F=ma is a stipulation because it essentially acts as a definition of force.

Suppose F=ma does act as a definition of force, something which I resolutely deny. (I also deny that m=F/a serves as a definition of mass, or that 'c=the square root of (E/m)' serves as a definition of the speed of light.) It doesn't thereby follow that F=ma is stipulative. Stipulative definition is only one of several kinds of definition.
5.29.2007 9:37pm
Vlastimil Vohánka (mail):
Tim,

I'm interested in your notes on the problem. You can post it here (if you want).

Thanks!
5.30.2007 1:03am
Vlastimil Vohánka (mail):
Spur,

I think that the notion of supernatural intervention, included in John DePoe's disjunctive condition (ii) of his definition of miracle, is a promising way out.

M. Levine, in his SEP entry on miracles, wrote:


Suppose ... that true laws of nature do not have the form:
(1) Whenever an event of type C occurs, an event of type E occurs.
Assume instead that they are of the form:
(2) If an event of type C occurs, and there is no supernatural intervention, then an event of type E occurs.
Or, schematically:
(3) (C &N) → E


If we grant this, then we do not have to accept Earman's premise 2. Yes, Levine discusses his suggestion as not wholly unproblematic, but I think it's still promising.

Excuse the shallowness of my remarks, but I'm in press of time. I'll try to ponder and maybe post something more detailed and to the point.
5.30.2007 1:22am
Bill Tingley (mail) (www):
Hi, Bill.

You wrote to Dave:

My first premise was: 1. A miracle is an exception to a law of nature. You say this begs the question. You are missing the point entirely, you and some other people in this thread. The question I posed above is not whether there are miracles, the question is the logically prior question concerning the correct definition of 'miracle.' Until we know what a miracle is, we won't be able to determine whether there are any.

Granted, but I think what some of us are doing here is clearing out a metaphysical space for miracles before getting into a precise definition of what they are. We need to lay a foundation for a universe in which the laws of nature, whether known or unknown, are not a complete explanation of how entities interact. If those of us who believe that miracles do occur cannot show that this supernatural, or at least non-natural, "space" can logically exist, then the laws of nature are sufficient to explain everything and there are no such things as miracles.

That said, let's get on with a definition. A miracle is:

[1] The change in form or matter of a substance
[2] by the purely mental act
[3] of an agent external to that substance.

I'll leave it at that for the moment.

Regards, Bill T
5.30.2007 6:05am
Steve_Feds (mail):
Bill,

I see no problem with the definition of 'miracle' offered by Moreland and Craig.

X is a miracle =df X is an event which at certain times and places cannot be produced by the relevant natural causes.

This does not strike me as just a vain restatement of the first definition. The event is only an infringement of a natural law or regularity (or whatever) in the sense that it cannot be explained by appealing to any kind of natural intervening factors. Well, in this sense, I don't even think that it is coherent to speak of the event as violating any kind of natural law.
5.30.2007 9:34am
Dave Gudeman (www):
Sorry, Bill, I got careless. The premise that begs the question is #2: Every law of nature is an exceptionless regularity. The argument can be reworded as

1. A miracle is an exception to a law of nature.
2. There are no exceptions to laws of nature.
therefore
3 There are no miracles.

If there are laws of nature as you believe, then you can't, in a discussion on whether there can be violations of same, simply assume that there are no violations. If I held to this idea of natural laws, then I would say that there are no natural exceptions to the laws of nature. The laws of nature being, after all, laws of nature, and not not laws of the supernatural. Just as the rules of chess movement admit of no exceptions within the universe of chess, still, any 2-year-old, as a super-chess influence can easily violate those movement rules with a single sweeping arm.
5.30.2007 11:56am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Bill T proposes a definition:

A miracle is:

[1] The change in form or matter of a substance
[2] by the purely mental act
[3] of an agent external to that substance.


Suppose some spiritual agent brings into existence ex nihilo a rabbit on my desk. That would count as a miracle, but it would not satisfy the right-hand side of your definition. Your defn is too narrow since it is restricted to changes in existing substances.

A second point is that it is not clear why an agent is needed at all. Suppose again that a rabbit suddenly starts existing ex nihilo on my desk but without being caused to start existing by an agent. That would count as a miracle.

Third. There is mental-physical causation. I can cause my body to execute certain motions. Now suppose I had the power to bend a spoon just be intently concentrating and willing the spoon to change shape. That would be a case of mental-physical causation in which I bring about a change in a physical object external to my body. Thus would the right-hand side of your defn be satisfied. But why should this count as a miracle ontically (as opposed to epistemically) viewed? It is not a miracle that I am able to pick up a spoon with my fingers. Why should it be a miracle that a man should work a change in a spoon without touching it? Sutrely we don't want to say that everything presently inexplicable is miraculous.
5.30.2007 1:29pm
Tim:
Vlastimil beat me to the point by quoting Levine's discussion. I'll just add that this distinction seems to be the proper way to interpret the earlier quotation from Moreland and Craig. If one wants to talk the language of laws -- and I'm comfortable doing that -- then it's slightly misleading to speak of a miracle as a violation of a natural law. What's critical to the definition of a miracle is that it constitutes a violation of the causal closure of the physical universe. The formulation Vlastimil offers, suitably fleshed out, makes this clear. And that, I think, resolves the problem Earman raises.
5.30.2007 2:35pm
Bill Tingley (mail) (www):
Hi, Bill.

I certainly welcome refinement of my definition of a miracle. However, I should now make clear a couple of things behind it. First, as is probably evident, it assumes that the universe is hylomorphic. Second, in a hylomorphic universe not all processes are physical but they are all ordinary (such as the exercise of human volition) -- except that which brings about a miracle. So a miracle is not merely that which has a non-physical causation, but that which is extraordinary in the universe.

With that in mind, I think expressing a miracle as a change in the form or matter of substance is useful, because if a ball resting on the floor suddenly begins to float in the air, a change in its density could account for its bouancy. Thus, its levitation would not violate a law of nature. It is what must happen to it according to those laws as a result of its new density.

But I did not include in that change the ex nihilo creation of matter, form, and substance, because those processes are necessary to the existence and functioning of the universe (e.g., the ex nihilo creation of prime matter that brought the universe into existence) or ordinary (e.g., the ensoulment of organisms -- the ex nihilo infusion of form into matter). While that rabbit popping into existence onto your desk may appear to be an ex nihilo creation of a substance, could it not be the alternation of existing substances? However, I will concede that the first part of my definition could be expanded to include ex nihilo creation with the caveat that it must be extraordinary (i.e., excludes that which is necessary to or ordinary in the universe).

An agent is necessary, because if one weren't, then the natural functioning of the universe would account for the the seemingly miraculous occurrence -- even if we do not know exactly how. Apparent miracles would be merely epistemic and not ontic.

Regarding mental-physical causation, my response to this stems from what I said at the outset. The process by which you cause your body to move is not physical. The exercise of volition is a purely mental act that causes a change in the matter of your body. It initiates a chain of electro-chemical events that results in the motion you desire. So even though it has a physical effect, the act in itself is not physical and escapes explication by science. Nevertheless it is an entirely ordinary process, as we all know from experience.

What would be extraordinary is if we could cause a change in the form or matter of a substance other than our own by a purely mental act, such as your example of bending a spoon. That would be a miracle. After all, there is no evidence that we humans can do this. However, if there were evidence, I agree that inquiry into whether the apparent miracle has an ordinary but presently unknown cause would be appropriate. As you say, we do not want to say everything that is presently inexplicable is a miracle.

So there is the practical matter of sorting out which apparent miracles count ontically and which epistemically. To this end Christians might add an additional element to the definition of a miracle: It must be a sign of God's will. But I'm not sure if this is necessary if we rule out those effects of non-physical but ordinary processes -- though I must admit I'm not sure what God might be telling you by putting a rabbit on your desk. ;)

Regards, Bill T
5.30.2007 2:42pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
The suggestion, coming via Tim via Vlastimil via Levine, that "What's critical to the definition of a miracle is that it constitutes a violation of the causal closure of the physical universe," might be too restrictive in singling out the physical universe. Even accepting a broader notion of Nature, though, the idea that miracles imply that Nature is not causally closed seems in some ways just a restatement of the problem; i.e., if a system instantiates (projectible(?)) exceptionless regularities, then could the system in question be causally open?
5.30.2007 5:34pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Bob,

If the universe exhibits exceptionless regularities, then the universe could be causally open if each event is supernaturally caused on the occasion of some other event's occurring. Think of an occasionalist like al-Ghazali. But that would not constitute the caused event a miracle since the event could be as mundane as you like, e.g., a piece of paper's catching fire. Seems a miracle must be an event that does not fit the hitherto established pattern. So it looks as if violation of causal closure, which just comes down to denial of causal closure, is not sufficient for the existence of miracles. There has to be a violation of an exceptionless pattern -- which returns us to the original difficulty.
5.30.2007 8:19pm
Paul (mail):
I just wanted to say that my post above was a summary of a subsection on Natural Law in John Frame's chapter on miracles in his excellent book, The Doctrine of God. Refer to that book for a more detailed look at a reformed concept of miracles, pgs. 241-273.

Paul
5.30.2007 8:31pm
Spur:
Bill,

Your comment above does nicely capture a key part of my argument, though not all of it.
5.30.2007 8:33pm
Dave Gudeman (www):
Bill V., you asked:
...if laws are "polite fictions," then you can't say that a miracle is a violation of a law of nature. If there are no laws of nature, then a miracle cannot consist in the violation of one. So how would you define 'miracle'?
I'll try to be brief without being so cryptic as to be accused of supporting Hume's idea of constant conjunction again :-).

I view a physical event as a type of physical object. Just as physical objects can be distributed in space (a living-room set, for example), so a physical thing can be distributed in both space and time (a baseball game, for example). More precisely an event is a physical thing, but is of a different type (in the Russell/Whitehead sense) than a physical object.

A pattern is a class of events --a species if you will. Just as two physical objects can have similarities that make them part of a class, so can two events. I view the member events of these classes as organic wholes, and not as accidental conjunctions of their parts.

Just as some logically-possible classes of physical objects are found in the real world and some are not, so some logically-possible classes of events are found in the real world and some are not. What you call natural laws, I would call incomplete human-oriented descriptions of classes of events.

The life of the universe itself is an event created directly by God. It contains many subevents, each part of a rich set of patterns. But there are some events within the life of the universe that are not part of the overall pattern of the universe. An event that happens as part of the pattern of the universe is a part of the creation of the universe. But an event that is not a part of the pattern of the universe is a distinct creation, a miracle.

Does that make any sense?
5.31.2007 12:24am
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