Maverick Philosopher

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To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

Can Belief in Man Substitute for Belief in God?

 The fact of natural and moral evil makes belief in a providential power difficult. But it also makes belief in man and human progress difficult. There is the opium of religion, but also that of future-oriented utopian naturalisms such as Marxism. Why is utopian opium less narcotic than the religious variety?

And isn’t it more difficult to believe in Man than in God? We know man and his wretchedness and that nothing much can be expected of him, but we don’t know God. Man appears impotent to ameliorate his condition in any fundamental way. We have had centuries to experience this truth, have we not? Advances in science and technology have brought undeniable benefits but also unprecedented dangers. The proliferation of nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons, their possession by rogue states and their terrorist surrogates, bodes ill for the future of humanity. We know our ilk and what he is capable of, and the bases of rational optimism seem slim indeed.

There is also the scarcely insignificant point that there is no such thing as Man, there are only men at war with one another and with themselves. But God is one. You say God does not exist? That may be so. But the present question is not whether God exists or not, but whether belief in Man makes any sense and can substitute for belief in God. I say it doesn't and can’t, that it is a sorry substitute if not outright delusional. We need help that we cannot provide for ourselves, either individually or collectively.

There may be no source of the help we need. Then the conclusion to draw is that we should get by as best we can until Night falls, rather than making things worse by drinking the Left's utopian Kool-Aid.

Posted by William F. Vallicella on Sunday November 5, 2006 at 2:01pm
David Tye (mail):
Bill,

This post is a gem, and states pretty much my views on religion better than I could say it myself. It's not so much that I can prove God, but that I can definitely disprove man. One can occasionally doubt the existence of God, but never the existence of the Devil.

Does this make me a Kantian? (Insert smiley face).

Cheers,
David
11.6.2006 10:26am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Thanks, David. Many hold that evil disproves God, but I think one can argue just as cogently that evil proves God.

In the Preface to the 2nd ed. of CPR, Kant says that he has found it necessary to deny reason in order to make room for faith. His showing -- if indeed he has shown it -- that God cannot be proved is also a showing that his nonexistence cannot be proved either. Kant installs God in a region where he is safe both from theoretical proof and theoretical disproof. Whether this will 'soften you up' for Kant, I don't know.
11.6.2006 12:29pm
Bill Tingley (mail) (www):
Bill,

I once again congratulate you as the Pithy Maverick. I admire what you can get across in a few paragraphs.

I agree with the gist of David's comment. Being flesh and blood, it's hard not to doubt God's existence at times, but a belief in God never contradicts what I know to be true. However, a belief in Man requires a willful ignorance or an outright embrace of contradictions.

Hence the brutality of the utopian projects of the believers in Man as they try to hammer the square pegs of humanity into the round holes of their false paradises.

Regards, Bill
11.6.2006 12:34pm
David Tye (mail):
Bill,

I suppose the resident atheist at this point would deploy the Problem of Evil. What is your take on it? I've found it self-defeating, because if you grant that evil has the "metaphysical heft" necessary to disprove God, then you've opened the door to metaphysics in general. The atheist opens the door to metaphyics to kick out God, but he finds instead that in walks Aquinas and his Five Ways, who proceeds to kick out the atheist instead.
11.6.2006 1:24pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Bill,

Thanks. Pith is king. And 'pith' is pithier than 'pithiness.' Just popped in at your blog. You've got some good posts up. I finally added you to my blogroll. Sorry to have been so remiss in this regard.
11.6.2006 3:07pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
David,

To argue from evil to the nonexistence of God one must assume an objective distinction between good and evil -- and this may provide the theist with a way of turning the tables. I need to develop this in detail.
11.6.2006 3:12pm
Bill Tingley (mail) (www):
Bill V,

Thanks for the thumb's up.

Bill T
11.7.2006 7:09am
Don Blow, Jr.:
Relevant to the discussion about the problem of evil is, I think, this post from Victor Reppert. It is about reductio versions of the problem of evil.

It may (or may not) be interesting that chapter two, "The Maniac", of G. K. Chesterton's Orthodoxy--especially the opening couple of paragraphs--very much agrees with what you say here, Bill. (Chesterton says elsewhere that "the man who denies original sin believes in the Immaculate Conception of everybody.")
11.7.2006 10:56am
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