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To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

Is There an Angry Unicorn on the Dark Side of the Moon?

It occurred to me this morning that I could enlist Edward 'Cactus Ed' Abbey to help me clarify Bryan Magee's point about what one is entitled to believe. Cactus Ed writes:

Is there a God? Who knows? Is there an angry unicorn on the dark side of the moon?

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Monday July 24, 2006 at 2:01pm
Jon Cohen (mail):
The main difference is that there have been no published, first person accounts of such a unicorn. If there were, you could accept them or not as you weighed the evidence. As it is, the unicorn on the moon is just figment of your own imagination. Whether you choose to believe in God or not, there is more evidence than simply one's imagination (albeit in some circles that is sufficient evidence, viz Dan Brown).
7.24.2006 3:56pm
TomG (mail) (www):
Would that lunar unicorn in fact be a lunicorn?
7.24.2006 5:11pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Either that or a loony-corn. I think 'loony' is from 'lunatic' from L. luna = moon.
7.24.2006 6:23pm
Tim:
Okay, I have enough residual positivist left in my genes (they tried to remove it cell by cell with tweezers, but it's nearly impossible to get it all) that I have to ask:

Invisible, intangible, inaudible ... in what sense hippos?

At least according to Christianity God make physical contact with mankind. Magee seems to have missed that bit.
7.24.2006 6:46pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Tim,

Something could be physical (as a hippo must be) and yet invisible, intangible, and inaudible if it is small enough.


Is there perhaps a circle if you try to prove God from Christ? Don't you need an independent reason to believe in God if you are to indetify a particular man as God? To recognize a man as divine seems to presuppose the antecedent recognition that there is an existent divine principle.
7.24.2006 7:03pm
Tim:
Bill,

Hippos aren't nano-sized objects either.

There's certainly nothing circular in the historical argument for the existence of God, any more than there is in the argument for the existence of electrons or black holes from the behavior of visible objects.

I note that you're using the word 'prove' here, which is a term I normally reserve for contexts where a deductive argument is in view. Perhaps the difficulty arises because you're thinking of this as a deductive argument, whereas I'm thinking of it as an explanatory inference with a Bayesian underlying structure?
7.24.2006 8:19pm
Thomas (www):
Indeed, Bill, 'lunatic' is from 'moon': as you probably know, until into the late Renaissance, our world was divided (one of the many divisions btw) into the sub-lunar and extra-lunar. Everything sub-lunar was chaotic and mad; everyting extra-lunar was ordered and intelligent. Obviously humans were part of the former... and the association between chaotic/madness and the moon apparently stayed.

But all of this beside the point of your excellent post...
7.25.2006 4:36am
Dave (mail) (www):
Another problem with Magee's position, as I see it, is an utter lack of appreciation for the practical importance of the beliefs, which you allude to when you write, "If there is a lunar unicorn, then this is just one more isolated fact about the universe." The existence of a unicorn on the dark side of the moon has little relevance at all to anything that I do unless I happen to travel one day to the dark side of the moon, an occurrence which, I am sure, is immensely improbable.

God's existence, on the other hand, is quite relevant to the way I live my life, and, for some people, whether life is worth living at all. Pascal's Wager, while not wholly valid in my opinion, at least points out the importance of giving the existence of God serious consideration. No one can reasonably say the same about unicorns on the moon. (And I say this as a "soft" agnostice.)
7.25.2006 11:18am
Kevin Kim (mail) (www):
Is this a bad time to spread the gospel of The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Many would contend-- and I'm one of them-- that most logical arguments for God might at best suggest the existence of a godlike being, but can't ram the point home that that being is the God of the biblical scriptures. This is where the Flying Spaghetti Monster comes in as a viable theistic alternative.

Or if you're not into pasta-meatball deities, there's always The First Church of Shatnerology.

Shatner still lives among us, a fact which those partial to incarnational theology will find reassuring.


Kevin
7.30.2006 9:23pm
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