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Paul Churchland on Eliminative Materialism

The most obvious objection to eliminative materialism (EM) is that it denies obvious data, the very data without which there would be no philosophy of mind in the first place. Introspection directly reveals the existence of pains, beliefs, desires, anxieties, pleasures, and the like. Suppose I have a headache. The pain, qua felt, cannot be doubted or denied. Its esse is its percipi. To identify the pain with a brain state makes a modicum of sense; but it makes no sense at all to deny the existence of the very datum that got us discussing this topic in the first place. But Paul M. Churchland (Matter and Consciousness, rev. ed. MIT Press, 1988, pp. 47-48) has a response to this sort of objection:

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Friday March 31, 2006 at 3:37pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
Bill -
I think you are right that Churchland (and probably many other eliminativists) work from an impoverished view of mental life. It's a shame that phenomenology went out of favor in the anglo-american world along with the more obscurantist strains of continental philosophy.

And as suggested in earlier strands of this thread, the problems with eliminativism extend right to the notions of 'observation' and 'conceptual framework' that are appealed to in an effort to explain away the problems to which critics point. The theory that there are no theories should be recognized for the self-refuting nonsense that it is. The fact that very intelligent people try to find ways to avoid this conclusion amazes me.
3.31.2006 5:37pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Good comment, Bob. Early cont. phil has a lot to offer: Brentano, Meinong, Twardowski, Stumpf, Husserl, Reinach, Scheler, early Heidegger, early Sartre, to mention some of the contributors. Also Edith Stein on the distaff side. (She went from being Husserl's assistant to being a Carmelite nun to being murdered by the Nazis.) But then the rot set in.

Although Wilfrid Sellars was not an EMer, to understand EM one has to go back to Sellars and indeed to Kant. When one does that, one can begin to see why very bright people like Churchland espouse EM.
3.31.2006 6:24pm
Alan Rhoda (mail) (www):
Bill,
I wholeheartedly agree with you about EM, but I'm not as familiar with continental philosophy as you are. Could you do a post comparing early continental philosophy with its later forms? Which authors would be the best ones to start with, especially for one, such as myself, who knows only a smattering of German? Are there any figures of later continental philosophy that you think to be work reading? Thanks.
3.31.2006 8:00pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Alan,

Thanks for your suggestion as to a series of posts on Cont. Phil. I'll try to accommodate you before too long.
4.1.2006 10:10am
Bob Koepp (mail):
Bill -
You're on the mark about Sellars as a source of Churchland's views. I think there has been an uncareful extension of Sellars' argument against the Myth of the Given well beyond the legitimate point that sense data are not givens in perception, but abstracted from it by an act of cognition. To get from there to the elimination of beliefs requires some very debatable definitional stipulations and methodlogical assumptions.
4.1.2006 3:40pm
Dave (mail) (www):
The implication of Churchland's view seems to be very anti-realist. If everything, even basic perceptions, is relative to a web of beliefs, then can we have any way of knowing if anything we perceive really is as we perceive it? Indeed, it would seem to extend even to our own understanding of the concepts we believe.

Thanks for another clear post.
4.2.2006 10:10am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Dave,

You're welcome. And thanks for getting me going on this topic. I am noticing a few points I hadn't thought of before.
4.2.2006 1:49pm
Micah (www):
Great analysis, and the connection back to Sellars is a really good point. See especially "Philosophy and the Scientific Image of Man." The beginning of the section "The Primacy of The Scientific Image: A Prolegomenon" says

Is the manifest image...the measure of what there really is? I do not think so. I have already indicated that of the three alternatives we are considering with respect to the comparative claims of the manifest and scientific images, the first, which, like a child, says "both," is ruled out by a principle which I am not defending in this essay, although it does stand in need of defense.

This certainly contains the direct seeds of EM. The question is, what is this "principle," and has it ever been defended, or merely assumed, by those such as the Churchlands? Whatever "principle" it is, it seems to amount to the denial of the cleavage between the subjective and objective, in order to arrive at a sort of "view from nowhere." (Science, being a kind of objectivity that is a locus of maximally inclusive intersubjectivity, is the ideal place for the two realms to collapse into; enter Quineanism.) This perspective treats the essence of the subjective as an unreduced surd, which is then simply "swept away." Kierkegaard would have been foaming at the mouth at such "principles."
4.3.2006 11:11am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Welcome, Micah. You will meet some very bright and very interesting people here. Please visit their weblogs and websites. I am lucky to have them as commenters. And they should take a look at your site.

As for Sellars, he considers three ways of relating the manifest and scientific images. The first way is to identify the objects of the manifest image with the objects of the scientific image. Sellars rejects this solution invoking the following principle:


. . . every property of a system of objects consists of properties of, and relations between, its constituents. (SPR 27)


But this really requires a separate post to be explained properly.
4.3.2006 4:15pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
Micah -
The Sellarsian principle in question doesn't specify that the relations between constituents must be linear, so I don't think additivity is implied. Still, whether we're talking about additive or non-additive properties, I don't see how any combination of physical properties, as these are currently understood, could "give rise to" consciousness.

My italicized qualification is about as much leeway as I can find it in my heart to extend to eliminativists of the Churchland variety -- I acknowledge that perhaps, someday, if we witness a major revolution in the conceptual foundations of physics, it might be possible to construct a "real" alternative (i.e., not a notational variant) to our current taxonomy of mental phenomena. But I have seen no arguments that could persuade me that I should accept promissory notes in this marketplace of ideas. And until such a revolution is realized, it seems eliminativists can't even formulate a positive statement of their view without lapsing into logical incoherence.
4.4.2006 8:55am
Micah (www):
What happened to my previous comment, the one Bob is replying to?

And, of course, there's nothing in our current understanding of physical properties that rules out the possibility that some combination of them could "give rise to" consciousness. But the eliminativists seem to assume, a priori as it were, that there is such a fundamental exclusion. This is, ironically enough, quite a Cartesian view of the physical and the mental.

Given the fundamental cleavage between the subjective and objective, and our modern compulsion to collapse the two into one, it's not at all surprising that we tend to rule out the possibility of consciousness being a physical property; and, if monism is true, I would still expect us never to find a theory of consciousness in physical terms (cf. Davidson's anomalous monism). But none of that is justification for eliminativism, as has been pointed out.
4.4.2006 10:54am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Micah,

I don't know what happened to your previous comment. Strange. It must have appeared if Bob replied to it.
4.4.2006 11:18am
Micah (www):
Oh... well, to recap briefly, I thanked you for the add and the warm welcome, made a comment about additivity that you can figure out from Bob's reply, and asked what Sellars said, or might have said, about supervenience, especially in relation to his central principle you cited (i.e., toward the possibility of nonreduction).
4.4.2006 11:36am
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