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To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

Dennett on the Deformation of the God Concept

One of the striking features of Dennett's Breaking the Spell is that he seems bent on having a straw man to attack. This is illustrated by his talk of the "deformation" of the concept of God: "I can think of no other concept that has undergone so dramatic a deformation." (206) He speaks of "the migration of the concept of God in the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) away from concrete anthropomorphism to ever more abstract and depersonalized concepts." (205)

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Tuesday February 21, 2006 at 7:55am
Henry Verheggen:
Dennett's dilemma does raise practical questions for those who take a doctrinal/belief approach to religion, which I assume is most people. What exactly is our concept of God? Do we really believe he parted the Red Sea, for example? Or do we leave that vague? And would that be that honest?

I just don't think about those questions anymore, not as a form of psychological denial, but because there is something more productive to do. Then am I inventing my own religion?
2.22.2006 6:37am
Kevin Kim (mail) (www):
Dr. V,

As much as I like Dennett, I'm forced to agree with you here. What Dennett is saying flies in the face of what we know through a study of the history of religions. The move from "concrete/literal" to "abstract/mystical" (or as some people put it, from exoteric to esoteric) is quite common in all religious traditions and not a deformation at all.

The Hindu notion of yajna, sacrifice, moved from the externalized, concrete ritual to something a Hindu practices daily-- every moment-- in his or her quotidian existence.

Magico-religious Taoism took several centuries to catch on to the fact that literally imbibing the products of alchemy could be a deadly business. Taoist internal alchemy came to replace external alchemy: there's no need to ingest real cinnabar when your body already has "fields of cinnabar."

In Islam, it was only a matter of time before a mystical movement like Sufism would arise. The other monotheisms evince the same sort of evolution.

External forms of kung fu gave birth to internal forms; other martial arts sired martial "ways" (the famous move from "-jutsu" to "-do").

This move from exo- to endo/eso- is so common that it boggles my mind to think Dennett is trying to attack religion here, at a spot where there are no chinks in the armor.


Kevin
2.25.2006 12:11am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Hi Kevin,

Thanks for the very good comment, which supplements what I said quite nicely. Dennett completely ignores the mystical core of religions, which core is arguably their true core.

There are mystical interpretations of Christian dogmas. I found a passage in Juan de la Cruz in which the Incarnation is given a mystical interpretation. I should post it.
2.25.2006 7:42am
Henry Verheggen:
We also find mystical interpretations arising quite early in Christianity. The desert fathers seem to have considered the mystical interpretation (what they called the "spiritual" interpretation) of scripture to be superior to the literal.

I also wonder about evolution in the other direction - from the esoteric to the exoteric. Was the God-as-essence experienced before the God-as-super-man? There are people having spontaneous mystical experiences in the present day, experiences that dramatically alter their world view. I would expect that this has been going on for many millennia.
2.26.2006 4:40am
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Henry,

Please do share with us any insights you might have on spiritual vs. literal interpretation. This interests me greatly.

The real source of religion is the experience of God-as-essence. This is not even allowed as a possibility on Dennett's' naturalistic scheme.
2.26.2006 7:50pm
Henry Verheggen:
That is a big and contentious topic, Bill. Here's a sketchy response.

The distinction between literal and non-literal religious language must long pre-date Christianity. Poetic association is probably the oldest form of non-literal language. Symbolism, metaphor, allegory, parable were used, but how old these forms are, I'm not sure. One writer detects spiritual metaphors in the Indo-European mother language. The translator of my copy of the Illiad believed that the stories therein were encodings of esoteric wisdom. IIRC the term "mysticism" descends from the Greek mystery religion of Eleusis, whose origin is lost in the mists of prehistory.

Anyway, Jesus certainly taught in parables, which indicates that he distinguished between exoteric and esoteric meanings, and between those who were able to hear and those who were not. The parables and sayings themselves are obviously metaphorical. For example: "Store up treasure in heaven, where rust does not corrode and the moth does not consume." What actually does it mean? The difficulty of answering suggests that the interpretation was never handed down in a continuous fashion.

The apostle Paul also distinguished "that hidden wisdom" spoken only to "the initiates". There are a number of other such dualities in Paul, the "letter" (literal interpretation) versus the "spirit" of the law, discernment "according to the flesh" versus "according to the spirit", "discerning the things of man through the spirit of man" versus "discerning the things of God through the spirit of God." And of course Paul, by his account, never met Jesus in the flesh, nor was taught by any of the original 12 disciples, but was taught directly through mystical vision.

The Valentinian Gnostics, who appeared early in Christian history, carried this to extreme. They claimed that Valentinian was a disciple of Theudas, who was a disciple of Paul. They interpreted everything in Paul in terms of the inner/outer teaching and in terms of the "psychics" versus the "pneumatics". Unfortunately, their inner interpretation was based on the Gnostic myth, something that probably pre-dated Christianity, and so it strikes us as bizarre and manifestly difficult to reconcile with Christianity. But it shows that mystical interpretations of religion were current in that period. There is also the question about whether the Gnostic myth is an allegory produced by some still earlier mystical school, perhaps one of the Greek mystery religions.

In the desert fathers, such as Evagrios Pontikos, I was struck by how they import excerpts from scripture in support of their teaching on the practice of contemplation. Often their use of these excerpts implies a psychological or spiritual interpetation that is far from the plain meaning of the words. I believe that somewhere one of them addresses this explicitly, but I don't remember where. Also, didn't St Jerome distinguish multiple levels of meaning in scripture?

So I think it is easy to establish that the ancients were well aware of this inner-outer dichotomy in religion. Another interesting question is whether it can be established historically that mysticism is the source of religion.
2.27.2006 8:00am
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