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To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

The Two Kinds of People in the World

I once worked as a mail handler at the huge Terminal Annex postal facility in downtown Los Angeles. I was twenty or twenty one. An old black man, thinking to instruct me in the ways of the world, once said to me, "Beell, dey is basically two kahnds a people in dis world, the fuckahs and the fuckees, and you gon’ have to decide which side you gon’ be on."

This morning I found the thought expressed with a bit more elegance by Giacomo Leopardi (1798- 1837) in his Pensieri:

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Wednesday January 18, 2006 at 1:48pm
Malcolm Pollack (mail) (www):
Hi Bill,

I've always thought there were indeed two kinds of people in the world - those who divide the world into two kinds of people, and those who don't.

I haven't been participating much lately - sorry. The discussion of possible worlds has been very interesting. I'm also interested to see you taking on Dennett once again. Have you read either of his books about free will ("Elbow Room" and "Freedom Evolves")? they are very good, I think, and I'd be curious to know what you think of them.

The question of how tightly the possible wraps the actual is rather hard to pin down, it seems. Are you familiar with "Austin's Putt"?
1.18.2006 2:04pm
Alan Rhoda (mail) (www):
Seems to me there are three kinds of people in the world - those who can count, and those who can't. :-)
1.18.2006 2:28pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Hi Malcolm,

I knew someone would reach for that old canard.

No need to apologize. You work for a living, with two kids in college or about to be, scratching out an existence in the mean streets of Gotham. I am amazed that you also find time to maintain a weblog and comment on other people's blogs. You are always welcome here to agree or disagree as is your wont and as your time permits.

I read Elbow Room years ago and published a paper on it. I have Freedom Evolves but haven't read it yet. It is on my agenda.

Austin's Putt -- is that a Dennett conceit from Freedom Evolves?

By the way, I owe you some moves and a reply to your PubSub e-mail. Sorry to be so lax, but I think I warned you months ago that I am not very efficient.
1.18.2006 3:19pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Alan,

Do you really have to Alanyze everything? [grin]
1.18.2006 3:33pm
Malcolm Pollack (mail) (www):
Is the paper online? I'd be very interested to read it.

"Austin's Putt" is apparently a famous example from 1961, by John Austin. He misses an easy putt, and the question is: "Could I have made it?"
1.18.2006 7:11pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Malcolm,

No the paper is not on-line. But it is listed in this bibliography of articles about Dennett.
1.19.2006 8:04am
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