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To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

What Is Religion? Part I

What are the marks (essential characteristics) of a religion? I am not sure I have a good answer to this question, but I propose to take a stab at it. I have three marks in mind. This post sets forth the first of them. Let me say that I take as data the great post-axial religions, in particular the three Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) and the two greatest Asian religions, Hinduism and Buddhism. Taking these five as our examples, are there any essential characteristics possessed by all of them and constitutive of their being religions?

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Saturday November 26, 2005 at 8:48am
Thomas:
Hmm, I'm not sure whether I agree. Summarized, I'd rephrase your essential characteristic as "The great religions are based on a radically defective response to the world, unameliorable by human effort alone"

As you write a sentence onwards, we are dealing with a "radical deficiency of the human condition"; and I would add: a deficiency to deal (let alone cope) with the existential facts of life (Primarily, death ;o)

A religious person, I think, does not deny that we die, and also does not necessarily think this worldy fact to be a bad thing - but fights the view that this earthly life and its material aspects is all there is. The Buddhist, for example, asks us to radically question ourselves in the most severe way, to find out what 'really matters' - resulting in the opinion that to hold fast onto anything, including our lives, as something we own does not really matter, because we, as the Buddha clearly saw, get ill, old, and die.

From a Christian perspective, the belief in God does not eliminate the fact that we, at some point in time, have to leave this earthly body (and our loved ones) behind. A Christian just believes that this is not the complete story, and that the non-religious person is radically mistaken when (s)he says that the empirical world is all there is. This non-religious view is, essentially, concordant with the view that "man is the measure of everything" (not sure of the English expression) A religious person denies this.

Whatever our opinion of the world, the religious person recognizes that our opinions and priorities are defective - not the world. A religious person has made a drastic turn away from this material world, not because it is radically deficient, but because this material world (and the sciences, concentrating exclusively on this aspect) is not enough to help us cope with existence, at least, when we actually take the trouble to face it... A religious person has made a literal conversion to accept that man is, radically, not the measure of all things.

...but perhaps I am hurrying into areas that you still wanted to discuss...
11.26.2005 11:12am
Thomas:
whoops, I meant

"The great religions are based on a response to a radically defective response to the world, unameliorable by human effort alone"
11.26.2005 11:17am
Sam Graf:
Hi Bill,

Much food for thought here. I've understood the essence of religion to be timeless and relational, it's expression to be temporal and relational. I've thought of the essence of religion as a right response and relationship to God. So St. James says, "Religion pure and undefiled before God the Father is this: to give aid to orphans and widows in their tribulation, and to keep oneself unspotted from this world" (1:27). In another world, maybe tending a garden is religion pure and undefiled. But maybe it's wrong to distinguish the essence and expression of religion, so it'll be good to think this through again.

Your post then leads me to a question. For the sake of my question, please suppose Genesis 1-3 is factual history. Would you say Adam and Eve prior to the Fall could not be religious and/or had no need for religion?
11.26.2005 11:30am
William Tanksley, Jr:
Interesting. This reminds me of the discussion of worldviews in Pearcy's "Total Truth". She posits that the deepest questions answered by each human is:

1. What are we supposed to be? (Creation)
2. Why aren't we that way? (Fall)
3. How can be become what we're supposed to be? (Redemption)

According to her, most major philosophies and teachers attempt to answer these questions in one guise or another.

So what you're describing would be not unique to religion, but rather to the human attempt to understand the cosmos.

Unless, of course, you strictly require the Redemption to be not "by human effort alone", which appears to cut out some philosophies we might wish to define as non-religious -- but still includes Marxism and such.

I guess I need to know -- what do you want from your definition of "religion"? Do you have some criteria?

-Billy
11.26.2005 1:33pm
Jason Pratt (mail) (www):

I may be missing something, but unless we're talking about Japanese Buddhisms (where the Boddhisavtra--sorry in advance if I've mis-spelled that... {s}--may descend to help bring people to release from desire), what part of (let's call it) 'classical' Buddhism involves a person _NOT_ being wholly responsible, in his own discipline ('effort' might be the wrong way to put it), for ameliorating his own condition?

I ask, because it looks as though you've made a shift. You summarized the first characteristic as involving the world as radically defective and unameliorable by human effort alone. To which, I suppose, the classical Buddhist would respond by rejecting the world (which is only mere appearance and thus unreal). So far so good. But when it comes to the sufferings of the Buddhist from desire, there is an intended amelioration: the renunciation of all and everything evident, thereby defeating suffering by defeating (not fulfilling, exactly) desire. (Strictly speaking, the Buddhist attempts to escape suffering of the world by the extinction of his self; he is not concerned with saving the world, which is mere appearance and so is unreal.)

Does the classical Buddhist expect help from something not human in achieveing this renunciation? I don't quite see how he could expect it, but I am not as conversant as I could be in the doctrines.

(This may be why various Christian comparative-religion analysts--from Chesterton to David Marshall in his _Jesus and the Religions of Man_--tend to classify classical Buddhism as being a philosophy and _not_ a religion.)

Jason
11.26.2005 2:13pm
Jason Pratt (mail) (www):

Whoops. Just read another comment elsewhere. Please delete the preceding; I really don't want to cause problems.
11.26.2005 2:38pm
Thomas:
Jason: I agree. As I understand classical strands of Buddhism, it is the human person that can save himself by self-scrutiny and self-realisation (in all its meanings). These classical Buddhists definitely are no Theists, and do not need a superior Being to help them save themselves. One might say they just need to take into consideration the 'Being' of Karma - although this is far away from the Christian, very personal 'Being' of God. If we want to distinguish philosophy sharply from religion, Buddhism might fit better into the category of philosophy, although it has developed certain religious aspects such as monasteries and liturgies.
11.26.2005 2:40pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
As suggested by Sam, could there not be a religion that doesn't incorporate some notion of the "fall from grace?" I'm thinking that one could have a religion comprised wholly of devotion to, or a worshipful attitude toward some transcendent reality. And what of those seekers after god who have come to the view that any defects in this world are merely apparent? Have they abandoned the religious path?
11.26.2005 2:44pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Bob,

You are asking whether the religious atttitude requires the notion of a Fall. I should think so. The religious person interprets the human condition as radically deficient. This could be taken to mean that our condition is fallen. Fallen from what? Fallen from a state that is possible, or once actual in the past, or actual in the present if only we could remove the blinders that prevent us from seeing it.

The Fall could be spelled out in terms of original sin, but it could also be spelled out in terms of original ignorance (or both). Accordingly, the deficiency of the human condition is due to a deep metaphysical ignorance distinguishable from ordinary empirical ignorance.

In this way I think I can accommodate your suggestion. To the enlightened, the defects in the world are merely apparent.

In sum, any religion would have to involve the notion of a Fall from an ideal state, whether that state be located in the past, or in the present (if only we could open the "doors of perception" (Aldous Huxley) sufficiently to see it, or in the future.
11.26.2005 3:44pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Sam writes:


Your post then leads me to a question. For the sake of my question, please suppose Genesis 1-3 is factual history. Would you say Adam and Eve prior to the Fall could not be religious and/or had no need for religion?


Now that's an interesting question! I would answer, yes. They would have no need for religion. They already stand in the right relation to the Absolute Reality (which is God on an Abrahamic scheme) so they have no need for a means to achieving that end.

In Buddhist terms, religion is like the raft that brings us across the river of Samsara to the the far shore of Nirvana. If we are already at the far shore, we have no need for the vehicle. Or it is like Wittgenstein's ladder, assuming one could abide forever on the roof . . . which reminds me of a song by the Drifters . . .

I am trying to characterize religion as a human enterprise, a human approach to the world-as-experienced. Thus religion is pursuit of right relation with the Absolute rather than possession of that relation.

For example, when someone 'gets religion,' does that mean that they now stand in right relation? No, it means that they are trying to get into right relation.

Finally, does anyone here take Genesis 1-3 as factual history?
11.26.2005 4:06pm
Bob Koepp (mail):
Bill -
I like the way you deploy the notion of a Fall from an ideal state. It certainly does reflect something deep about religion among we humans. I've never encountered any flavor of religion that didn't begin from a sense of profound loss/separation. 'Religio', if I remember correctly, connotes restoring broken ties.

It does seem, however, that this approach rules out by fiat any notion of religion among creatures who have not fallen, even though they might still cultivate the sort of devotional, worshipful attitude I alluded to earlier.
11.26.2005 4:18pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Billy reproduces these questions:


1. What are we supposed to be? (Creation)
2. Why aren't we that way? (Fall)
3. How can be become what we're supposed to be? (Redemption)


Are these questions unique to religion? Well, in this form they are. The first question presupposes that there is a human nature assigned by a Creator,a nature that is normative in the sense that it prescribes how we ought to live if we want to achieve the good that the Creator has prepared for us.

But not everyone believes that we are creatures in the strict sense. Some would say that there is nothing that we are supposed to be. We just exist, and we project our purposes. Existence precedes essence, as Sarte would put it.

Creation, Fall, and Redemption are religious concepts. They don't correspond to anything in a naturalistic view of the world.
11.26.2005 4:24pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Bob writes:


It does seem, however, that this approach rules out by fiat any notion of religion among creatures who have not fallen, even though they might still cultivate the sort of devotional, worshipful attitude I alluded to earlier.


I think you are right, Bob. But I think my characterization fits the five religions that I mentioned, and that represent the highest manifestations of religion so far. Playing on etymology, religion is the restoration of broken ligatures. What you are referring to is perhaps a form of nature-mysticism.

I am not merely stipulating a sense for 'religion,' nor am I trying to cover everything anyone ever called a religion. Thus Roman polytheism is not religion as far as I am concerned. I am aiming at a 'precisifying' definition, one that involves an unvoidable regimentation.
11.26.2005 4:39pm
Spur:

[D]oes anyone here take Genesis 1-3 as factual history?


I'm inclined not to.
11.26.2005 7:01pm
William Tanksley, Jr:
Creation, Fall, and Redemption are religious concepts. They don't correspond to anything in a naturalistic view of the world.


The words are religious, but the concepts and questions the refer to aren't. "Creation, Fall, Redemption" could perhaps be "Origin, Inadequacy, Success". Naturalism itself doesn't have a single answer to all three, but there are many naturalistic systems which do. Oddly enough, Mormonism is one example -- they believe that matter itself is eternal and self-existant, and the laws of nature declare the way in which matter proceeds to becoming a God. But secular humanism also answers those questions!

But I'm not completely "with" Bill on this definition of religion. I'm trying to understand, but I'm not sure what the purpose is. It seems that perhaps he's trying to quantify religiousness...

Inasmuch as I can define religion, I would call it a set of prescribed (and proscribed) actions through which humans attempt to relate to the Ultimate. I do not believe that religion is a set of attitudes, questions, or answers.


As suggested by Sam, could there not be a religion that doesn't incorporate some notion of the "fall from grace?"


If by "religion" you mean a system of beliefs about the ultimate, then perhaps -- but such a religion would seem pretty shallow, since it would have to explain why so few people followed it (wouldn't that imply that all the other people were factually wrong?). Of course, that question doesn't have anything to do with my definition of religion.


I'm thinking that one could have a religion comprised wholly of devotion to, or a worshipful attitude toward some transcendent reality. And what of those seekers after god who have come to the view that any defects in this world are merely apparent? Have they abandoned the religious path?


Well, there are worldviews which DO state that. Here's an example.

Creation: all is one.
Fall: we falsely perceive that we are individuals.
Redemption: by meditation and karma we reject the illusion and accept oneness.

There's still a fall there.

-Billy
11.26.2005 9:08pm
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