Maverick Philosopher

Nihil philosophicum a me alienum puto

To promote independent thought about ultimates. Philosophy, commentary on the passing scene, and whatever else turns my crank. Since 4 May 2004. By William F. Vallicella, Ph.D., Gold Canyon, Arizona, USA. Motto: "Study everything, join nothing." (Paul Brunton) Latin Motto: Omnia mea mecum porto. Turkish motto: Yol bilen kervana katilmaz. (He who knows the road does not join the caravan.) All material copyrighted.

Searle, Dennett, and Zombies

A zombie is a critter that is physically and behaviorally exactly like a human being (or any being that we consider to be conscious) but lacks consciousness. That is a stipulative definition, so don't argue with me about it. Just accept it. I'll use 'zombie' to refer to human zombies and won't worry about cat zombies, etc.

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Posted by William F. Vallicella on Sunday May 29, 2005 at 3:48pm
Clark Goble (mail) (www):
I agree with you regarding Searle. I think he offers penetrating criticism of other positions. However his own position is hard to even understand sometimes. (Although I agree with his criticism against functionalism by analogy with a computer model of a gasoline engine and a gasoline engine)

One thing I tend to be skeptical of is the notion that a zombie and a creature with consciously would be exactly identical physically. That sounds doubtful to me, but is required for the thought experiment to function properly.
5.29.2005 10:34pm
Bill Vallicella (mail) (www):
Glad we agree, Clark. I'll put up another post on zombies in a minute, one that addresses your skepticism.
5.30.2005 8:46am
Malcolm Pollack (mail):
I think I have passed the comment sunset here, but this is simply NOT what Dennett says. This is, however, the "straw man" that is always put up to be easily and rightly knocked down.

Of COURSE we have conscious experiences. You know it, I know it, Searle knows it, and Dennett knows it. What Dennet is saying is that these experiences simply are all of the mechanical processes going on, rather than adding an extra step, which is their presentation to some metaphysical Interpreter.
9.14.2005 7:07am
Malcolm Pollack (mail):
Well! The comment sun was still above the horizon. Thought I was already in the gloaming.

Malcolm
9.14.2005 7:09am
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